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Posted 07 April 2004 - 11:21 AM

Oh mighty Bobo,

You must be working for a Sheik or a Sultan if you only have 6 months of ProIV experience and are making more than anyone here on this forum will EVER make per hour. I'd gladly switch jobs with you here in Sweden.

Don't hold your breath about this job, Bobo. Word around here is that we will suggest a good aquanitance of someone already here for the role. What the skills of the other people are, we don't care. Ol' Vijay Garg himself <the co-writer of the ProIV program> would have the door slammed in his face over the legend of this after hours "colleague". As the ProIV world gets smaller and smaller, Bobo, you will find that this practice, although unmentioned, is done everywhere. I'm not saying it's fair to put the need to keep the contractors happy, in this one-horse town, over the needs of the client, but that's how I got my job here many months back so I'm not complaining. ;)

The moral of this story, Bobo, is that if you have to lower your rate to 50 pounds per hour just to consider this job in Sweden, then you're going to be sadly disappointed at what the rate actually is. :huh:


I am sorry I have not replied to you, but I took a couple of days off so that I could go on a self-paid COBOL course.

Great, now I can apply for some of those jobs in Scotland where you MUST have mainframe.

I assure you that I am not on 50 / hour now, I just believed that was a fair rate. Sorry I am new at this, I am only an employee, but my company bills me out to clients as a 'Consultant', and 50 / hour is a lot less than they charge.

Who is this Ol' Vijay Garg?

It is an exotic sounding name? Is he one of these Indian outsourcing people? Surely he would be too busy working for SHELL, or whatever the name of that petroleum company, is to be interested in working in Sweden.

Does anybody know if any of the Indian outsourcing companies are taking on UK contractors?

Do they have any such companies in Thailand, that would be more appealing?

Any ideas how I could become an aquaintance of somebody on site to give me a better chance?

Thanks, and am happy for you that you are not complaining.


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Posted 07 April 2004 - 11:42 AM

Sinbad, I read the whole thread mate.

Sure, in an ideal world it would be great to interview every Pro-IV contractor and find the best one. But as time is limited for the hiring procedure (ie: everyone has got lots of other work to do) this is not always possible. So then you have to take all things into consideration and that includes whether someone has worked with them before.

And also, this goes both ways. There are quite a few contractors who won't get a job because they are known. There are some people who would never be allowed back on this site (even though they interview great, had a long CV and knew all the answers to the Pro-IV questions) because they were incompatible with the rest of the team or the client.

As for whether they have a personality which will go over well on site and allow them to work well in the team, Jack, a contractor is suppose to be professional and leave any problems at the door when he/she comes in, and perform professionally during business hours. If he cannot, then he should be ousted, irregardless of how long they've been there! Cast the problem aside and move on

Why wait until after you have hired them to "oust" them when you can save a whole lot of time and money by not hiring them in the first place?

But as you point out there is never going to be a definitive answer to this question and while Pro-IV remains such a small incestuous community (you realise that you and I know eachother, right? :huh: ) we will have to live with the advantages and disadvantages that personal relationships bring to the table.

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 02:31 PM

Do we know each other too Jack? I think I might know Bobo and Sinbad.

Boo hoo! I have no friends and so will never get a contract. It's just sooo unfair.

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#34 Mike Wright

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Posted 07 April 2004 - 02:44 PM

Who's this Pro-IV Colonel bloke my boss keeps talking about?

Any idea which Company/Division he belongs to? :huh:

Company/Division - I just got that. Heh heh. Brilliant!!!

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 09:26 AM

Seem berry much like to me that some people grind axe because they do job not get ;)

You should read the intro letters that some people send. Totally fucking amazing :huh:

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Posted 08 April 2004 - 10:10 AM


Guess I should apologise then as by the mail it was quite possibly me (and a couple of others) that interviewed you and I can guarantee you that if you got the job it was in no way because you were pre-approved, despite what any of your mates may have told you. We don't work that way and if you did get the job you obviously came across as reasonably intelligent and competent.

As for asking what your favourite book is - what's wrong with that? We've had our fair share of anti-social muppets pass this way and just because your ProIV skills are up to scratch doesn't mean that "normal" people (if there is such a thing in the ProIV world) want to work alongside you. It's just as important to find somebody that will be able to work within the existing team without creating friction as it is to find somebody who is technically capable of doing the job.

Now who'll join me in a rousing chorus of "ahhh-haaaarrrs"


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Posted 08 April 2004 - 12:49 PM


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Posted 15 April 2004 - 04:02 PM

Pro-Iv Colonel is the top geezer who makes sure your bootstraps are well enough pollished that he can see his variables reflected on them.

Now get down and give me 5.

Shouldn't that be "Give me 5.5." or 4.6?

Edited by Glenn Meyers, 15 April 2004 - 04:03 PM.

#39 Guest_Curious Peter_*

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Posted 16 April 2004 - 07:27 AM

Or an array of 5 ?

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Posted 16 April 2004 - 08:24 AM

Or an array of 5 ?


Very Poor,

quoting a certain Belgian

"Dont call me, Ill LSCALL you!"

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Posted 19 April 2004 - 01:49 PM

Or an array of 5 ?


Very Poor,

quoting a certain Belgian

"Dont call me, Ill LSCALL you!"


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Posted 21 April 2004 - 11:09 AM

[FONT=Optima][I][COLOR=purple]Oooh, shut that wondow!

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Posted 22 April 2004 - 07:30 AM


Step into my office

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Posted 27 April 2004 - 10:33 AM

A rather funny thread here.. very interesting to see some of the new users on the board - BS Bruce - Benty..

Christ, we even have people being trained by Gina... GOD help us..


I'd like to comment on the reply about being 'Branded for life'. I for sure can say this exists because I am a Pro-IV specialist with 14 years experience and 7 years experience of ISIS and I CANNOT even get an Interview for these contracts - Why? - Well because I rocked the boat apparently with the agency responsible for these sites and will never work there again and I have NEVER worked for this agency in the past which is nice!

I have now been out of work for over a year... I cannot believe some people can be so petty in life!

And yes, the comment about they take a friend of a friend rather than the best candidate is without a soub true..


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Posted 27 April 2004 - 12:41 PM

Blimey !

What did you do to rock the boat cartman ?

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