What is your organisation's plans for your existing ProIV system?
Are you upgrading to 5.x?
Are you upgrading to 5.x, but the system is being (or will be) replaced by a non ProIV system?
Are you going to stay on your current version for the forseeable future?
Are you not upgrading, because the system is being (or will be) replaced by a non ProIV system?
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Poll: your organisation's plans for ProIV
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Posted 14 November 2002 - 10:39 AM
Isn't this a bit of a pointless poll? If 5 people from the same organisation say 'Moving to 5.x but system being replaced' it will look like 5 organisations are doing that and then the numbers aren't going to tell us much...
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Posted 14 November 2002 - 12:35 PM
No, it is not pointless at all.
You are correct when you say it is useless from an organisation point of view.
However, it does give a rough indication of how many ProIV jobs will stay and how many will be gone, and if people are upgrading or not.
If too many people are answering that their system is being replaced, then it might be time to start learning something new....
You are correct when you say it is useless from an organisation point of view.
However, it does give a rough indication of how many ProIV jobs will stay and how many will be gone, and if people are upgrading or not.
If too many people are answering that their system is being replaced, then it might be time to start learning something new....
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Posted 14 November 2002 - 12:44 PM
What are those of us who already upgraded to 5.x ages ago supposed to answer?
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Posted 14 November 2002 - 12:44 PM
'Mr Polls', 
Somehow I think that anyone working with about 20 other Pro-IV programmers on a Pro-IV system that is being replaced by something else should already have the idea that it's time to learn something new....
Somehow I think that anyone working with about 20 other Pro-IV programmers on a Pro-IV system that is being replaced by something else should already have the idea that it's time to learn something new....
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Posted 14 November 2002 - 12:51 PM
Dan, use your initiative!
Or should I have spelt it out for you: 'Are you upgrading or have you upgraded to 5.x.....' blah blah blah blah
Or should I have spelt it out for you: 'Are you upgrading or have you upgraded to 5.x.....' blah blah blah blah
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Posted 14 November 2002 - 01:44 PM
Our company is currently using a version of PRO-IV that reads: Copyright by Data Technical Analysts, no date given. As I understand, this version is most likely a dinosaur; as compared to version 5.0. While it is Unix based, due to the fact that the binaries are M68K, this platform just cannot be moved. The computer is 18 years old, and has been whacked by lightning twice. I am urgently suggesting that it be replaced; but it will not happen. Budgetary reasons; and when it goes, I guess I will be looking for another job. I have strongly urged management to move to a Windows platform; and would like to continue using PRO-IV (even as a basic 'green screen mode'; but the time and effort to re-code our software would not leave me much time to do my other jobs. Looking at ana evaluation version of 5.0, I am impressed, but there is so much complexity behind it. The learning curve is extremely steep. If put against the wall on this one, it looks like we would move to a canned package, even though we would achieve greater effectivenss with PRO-IV. Unfortunately, all of those enhancements made over the years would be lost.
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Posted 14 November 2002 - 02:14 PM
I just did a search for 'Data Technical Analysts'...
According to this link, this company was sold by Frank R. Fukunaga to McDonnell Douglas in 1989....
http://starbulletin.com/1999/04/06/business/expro.html
According to this link, this company was sold by Frank R. Fukunaga to McDonnell Douglas in 1989....
http://starbulletin.com/1999/04/06/business/expro.html
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Posted 14 November 2002 - 05:17 PM
Yes I think Sushil did the original work for DTA. But I think all versions up to (probably) 3.0 were copyright DTA.
Now I can recall the days when 1.1 and 1.2 were written in assembler and would fit into 64k memory on a PDP11....
Now I can recall the days when 1.1 and 1.2 were written in assembler and would fit into 64k memory on a PDP11....
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Posted 14 November 2002 - 08:09 PM
Thanks for that Grandad 
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Posted 14 November 2002 - 09:18 PM
Please don't make me feel OLD!!!
I remember the days when operating systems required less than 13KB, not 1300KB (like Windows).
And then you still has 65K space on a 90k floppy!
I remember the days when operating systems required less than 13KB, not 1300KB (like Windows).
And then you still has 65K space on a 90k floppy!
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Posted 15 November 2002 - 08:01 AM
Actually - it was about 24K I believe. I just don't count in amouts less than 64K these days!
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Posted 15 November 2002 - 09:13 AM
That's your monthly rate, I take it Chris (64k) ?
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Posted 15 November 2002 - 03:35 PM
Is that a firm offer Shaun - and is it Aussie dollars, pounds sterling, US dollars or Thai baht?
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Posted 15 November 2002 - 10:34 PM
Aussie dollars ? That's about two pounds fifty at the moment.
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