10 replies to this topic

[Rob Donovan]

Hi,

I think that it would be a good idea if we could have a dedicated server that had ProIV on it that everyone could logon to and share/show ProIV code.

I have looked into the costs of having a dedicated server, and my provider can give us one for about US$159=£100=AU$258 per month.

This is a link to the server description...

http://www.hostway.com/dedicatedserver/lin...w100_level2.htm

I'm not really wanting to pay all of that... so I wondered if anyone would be interested in donating/helping out? If we get enough people, it wont be much each.

I would be willing to put in $20 per month, since that is what it costs me currently for this site.

Or if some company would like to contribute and then I could put up their logo/banner on the main site page as advertising?

I think it could be quite valuable to have this... what do you think?

I would be willing to admin/setup and run the server.

Thanks,

Rob D.

[Rob Donovan]

Sorry, first option should read

'Yes, I am willing to donate a small amount'

Rob D.

[Dan Shannon]

Just a thought but have you approached PRO-IV themselves? It's the premier forum for their product... just so long as they don't get editorial control

[Richard Bassett]

I may be willing to donate a small amount

Since, I presume, you're proposing to run ProIV on this server - what will the development-license situation be and how will that affect costs?

Will we be able to run Oracle on this server?

Do you think we need to be concerned about people tampering with the shared/shown code (since ProIV is weak on read/write protection for source)?

Richard.

[Rob Donovan]

Hi,

Thanks,

If we are going to do it, then I will talk to ProIV about licenses, and try and sort that out.

We can put anything on the server, but I'm not sure about costs involving oracle.

Does ProIV work with mysql??... because we would get that.

As for security, we could have a couple of areas. One where you can do what you want and anything could get deleted/changed ....but I would expect people to behave a bit

We could also have an area that holds 'good/approved' code, that we could set the bootstrap files to r--r--r mode so that changes cannot be made by anyone (or just moderators).

Any more thoughts??

Rob D.

[Dan Shannon]

Not sure how Oracle would handle such a thing - development licenses are FREE so long as nothing's deployed - suggest you talk to them direct about whether they would consider such a thing 'deployed'. If they do then you're up for ~A$70K per cpu for an unlimited (ie >50-named-user) license.

[Richard Bassett]

Since we're making no commercial gain and not deploying any code 'in production', I would have thought we'd be fine with Oracle - but of course we'd have to clear it with them. The 'visibility' does benefit them to an extent after all!

As a database I think Oracle would be of the most interest to the largest part of the ProIV community. Between us, we should already have the skills to manage it.

Speaking personally, I'm not interested in MySQL although I might be interested in the PostgreSQL open-source database. I'd be happy to hear other people's opinions!

Regs. Richard


PS. Which development environments would you expect to 'allow' into code areas? Would you have separate areas where there are incompatibilities with concurrent use?

[Glenn Meyers]

I would be delighted to both contribute financially and to donate some time in managing/supporting the site.

[Dale Faircloth]

We would potentially be prepared to supply, host and run the server having our own full ISP capability, however what about licensing the box, who would pay for the PROIV licenses? Also, in return, we would dearly like to get our hands on some PROIV training material.

[Rob Donovan]

Hmmmm...

ProIV training docs.... Sorry, I cant help you with that.

To my knowledge there are no training docs around.

I think that ProIV LTD do do training sessions now and again.

Rob D.

[Rob Donovan]

Here are some links...

http://www.proivinc.com/training/united_states.html

or

http://www.proivinc.com/training/united_kingdom.html


Rob D.