Jump to content


Photo
- - - - -

PROIV 4.0 Download [URGENT]


11 replies to this topic

#1 Junior

Junior

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 5 posts

Posted 21 July 2011 - 07:22 PM

Hi friends

I need of informations of Proiv 4.0 to download, i have a customer that need to do server migration, and this installation is highly required.

Thank you so much for your attention.

Claudemir Junior

#2 Richard Bassett

Richard Bassett

    ProIV Guru

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 696 posts
  • Location:Rural France

Posted 29 July 2011 - 12:38 PM

Hasn't been available for over fifteen years I think.

If your customer still has a support contract, ProIV might be prepared to re-serialize the 4.0 that you have on the new server but there might well be a charge and new licensing/support conditions.

If you have no support contract or are changing OS platforms you may have a problem..
Nothing's as simple as you think

#3 DARREN

DARREN

    ProIV Guru

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 395 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida,USA

Posted 29 July 2011 - 02:36 PM

As Richard said, PROIV will be able to help but you may be charged if you are off your support contract. Support for Version 4.0 was discontinued in 1996, but version 5.5 will run 4.0 and 4.6 object code without issue. If you are moving to a new server YOU WILL DEFINITELY NEED NEW KEYS. This is no different than if you were moving Oracle to a new server. Good luck.
Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler

#4 Junior

Junior

    Newbie

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 5 posts

Posted 29 July 2011 - 05:27 PM

Hi Darren, [URGENT]

Thank you, my customer is using the PROIV 4.0 for Unix, we'll have some problem when migrating to 4.6 for linux?

Best Regards

Junior

As Richard said, PROIV will be able to help but you may be charged if you are off your support contract. Support for Version 4.0 was discontinued in 1996, but version 5.5 will run 4.0 and 4.6 object code without issue. If you are moving to a new server YOU WILL DEFINITELY NEED NEW KEYS. This is no different than if you were moving Oracle to a new server. Good luck.



#5 DARREN

DARREN

    ProIV Guru

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 395 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida,USA

Posted 29 July 2011 - 09:02 PM

No you will not have a problem.

A PROIV Version 4.6 Kernel (Virtual Machine) will run 4.0 object code without issue. If you were to simply install 4.6 and then reference the existing bootstraps (from the 4.0 environment) then it would work.

regards

Darren
Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler

#6 DARREN

DARREN

    ProIV Guru

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 395 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida,USA

Posted 29 July 2011 - 09:04 PM

....but you are still going to need a new set of software keys for the site license if you are migrating to a new machine !!
Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler

#7 Rob Donovan

Rob Donovan

    rob@proivrc.com

  • Admin
  • 1,640 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Spain

Posted 30 July 2011 - 02:16 PM

No you will not have a problem.

A PROIV Version 4.6 Kernel (Virtual Machine) will run 4.0 object code without issue. If you were to simply install 4.6 and then reference the existing bootstraps (from the 4.0 environment) then it would work.

regards

Darren


Really?

Every version of P4 we have upgraded over the yrs, we have had to do quite a bit of changing to functions and stuff because of differences, code not genning etc etc... cant remember any specifics, but I know we've had projects for every upgrade that we have done....

Rob.

#8 DARREN

DARREN

    ProIV Guru

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 395 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida,USA

Posted 01 August 2011 - 01:20 PM

You are correct Rob in that there were several 'upgrade' utilities that were shipped with each major version of the product that amended the source code and I think I have listed them in another thread. PROIV 5.5 (and prior versions) was intentionally coded to be backward compatible with object code (genfile) going back to version 3.0. In short, you can point a 5.5. kernel at a 3.0 or above genfile and it should run without issue.
Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler

#9 Richard Bassett

Richard Bassett

    ProIV Guru

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 696 posts
  • Location:Rural France

Posted 01 August 2011 - 01:30 PM

I think V55 is backward-compatible with v46 and so very probably with V40. However, I doubt that it is backward-compatible with V30 as there were significant bootstrap changes such as the key length for global function parameters.

Also, if any functions run close to the edge of workspace, available workspace decreased steadily, albeit slightly, from V30 to V40 to V46 to V55. So it pays to be very sceptical that anything will just work.

I would strongly discourage the assumption that an application will definitely be unaffected by upgrading ProIV - it needs to be regression tested.


Nothing's as simple as you think

#10 DARREN

DARREN

    ProIV Guru

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 395 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida,USA

Posted 01 August 2011 - 02:13 PM

Richard

You may be correct with version 3.0, but it had a very short shelf life anyway and was quickly replaced with version 4.0

With regard to workspace, there was a parameter that could be defined in the ini file that allowed workspace size to be defined, although I cannot remember what it was off the top of my head. I know I have ran a 5.5. kernel against a 4.0 genfile without issue. Maintenance of the code may require some upgrading, but the app should run.
Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler

#11 Rob Donovan

Rob Donovan

    rob@proivrc.com

  • Admin
  • 1,640 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Spain

Posted 02 August 2011 - 03:27 PM

I didn't mean the conversion functions.

Every upgrade I've done, we have always had some functions, which either wont gen, need changing or some other kind of change to make them work in the new version.

Although, I've never used the gen records from one version to the next, so I don't know about that. But personally, I wouldn't do that. I would always regen everything and that is when we have found problems in the past.

Rob.

#12 DARREN

DARREN

    ProIV Guru

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 395 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Florida,USA

Posted 02 August 2011 - 04:01 PM

I agree and that is also my view for upgrading, but if this guy just needs a VM to run his app then 5.5. will get him out of the proverbial and he can worry about fine tuning later.
Things should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler



Reply to this topic



  


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users