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[anipirakis]

Hello All,

I have been working with Glovia(7.1.x) for about two years now, one of which is in the nitty gritty of the Superlayer etc. I have heard from many people (mostly people here at my company) that Glovia (Pro-IV) was originally designed to run on Unix. I have noticed from my own experience that many places in Glovia refer to "OS USER" but in all the documentation I have, we are to disregard these variables as (again) we are Windows Server users. I was just wondering if there is any significant performance differences in how Windows and Pro-IV play as opposed to how Pro-IV and Unix play. From the fact that you can specify a OS USER for a Pro-IV (glovia) user for Unix environments, that suggests that each user gets its own operating system layer login process thingy (ok -- a programmer I am a unix expert I am not).

Another question, is Glovia (Fujitsu) the largest user of Pro-IV or are there others out there developing Pro-IV Code? If memory serves, the Pro-IV runtime is somewhat expensive and a license is required for each person using an application developed in Pro-IV.

I have been learning Pro-IV but I am not yet an expert so please forgive me for sounding dumb

Thanks,

Aleksei

[Donald Miller]

Hi Aleksei

A couple of years ago I asked Pro IV for some information on how Pro IV was doing. I seem to remember it went along the lines of :

There are around 750 Pro IV sites (not seats) worldwide of which around 500 are in America. And before you ask - no - I don't have information on how those sites breakdown as customers nor did I request the number of licences/seats/users.

The largest customer (in terms of volume) appears to be Glovia.
The largest customer (in terms of revenue) could be Wall Street Systems
Pro IV increased their customer base by about 100 in the year I asked. I was encouraged by the positive feedback enough not to ask how that figure was determined. They were winning back customers they had previously lost.

But I'm re-iterating this from memory. So don't take it as fact - just a guide.

I'm sure that if you contacted Pro IV for more information (either more up to date or more accurate), they'll respond.

As for the unix - "a unix expert I am not" too.

Edited by Donald Miller, 14 October 2006 - 08:55 AM.

[Chris Pepper]

Here is a little history.

Glovia started out as a system called Chess. This was written under contract for Xerox Computer Services by GDS. This was a company started by Sushil Garg who originally wrote ProIV, then sold it to MacDonnell Douglas Information Systems. To build the system the company developed a ProIV generator called Superlayer (the main architect of this was Sushil's uncle Vijay). Eventually they also sold the Superlayer product to MDIS (which was the part of MDIS that separated, by means of a management buyout, from parent company. This company was floated on the UK stock exchange, then had financial problems. They had bought the Chess product from Xerox. Fujitsu were one of the major users. Initially they partnered with Fujitsu to form a joint company (Glovia). Finally Fujitsu took control of the whole company, including various rights to their own version of ProIV, Superlayer etc. Finally, the MDIS company was saved, and eventually renamed Northgate.

So that is how Glovia came about!

(When we have the wiki, I will put in as much of a complete history, including the dates & details... and some comments on what dirty deals may have been done along the way!).

[Lewis Mccabe]

I think your number of companies using PRO-IV is low. I know of one US firm alone with 1000+ companies running their PRO-IV product. That being said, we are not near 10,000 total which I would like to see.

Lew

[Joseph Bove]

I think your number of companies using PRO-IV is low. I know of one US firm alone with 1000+ companies running their PRO-IV product. That being said, we are not near 10,000 total which I would like to see.

I'd concur with Lew. We are closing in on 100 sites ourselves and we are not the largest US vendor...

Regards,

Joseph