I've been following this discussion that you and davethehun have been having. I must say that I am tending to side with davethhun on this matter. I myself have just recently moved from the native PRO-IV and started using VIP and have found it a lot faster and easier to use. It doesn't work as a windows product would it but it is not a full windows product yet, that may come with time so limitations should be excepted.
I also feel you are been quite harsh calling the product s**t when there must of been a lot of work gone into it and it's not that bad. You wouldn't like it if somebody called one of your systems s**t after you'd just spent ages developing it, I know I wouldn't.
I agree with you that its not nice when an application you write is slated with words like dogs dinner and slightly more emotionally charged words like utter s**t.
However, if I write an application and people think its crap, they just have to go buy another product. If I totally change an existing application and the current users think its crap, they can stay with the old version or go buy another product. However, when a crap application is forced upon its current clients and the older applications become 'unsupported' then as an end user I'm entitled to say its crap without feeling too sorry for the developers feeling.