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#1 Rob Donovan

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Posted 04 June 2003 - 12:46 PM

Hi,

I just upgraded to version 5.5r302 and I have noticed that if I try to go into @UM option 18 (ie Import/Export) and import my native functions, it says that all importing should be done in VIP!!

So I go into VIP and try to import my functions, but VIP is only allowing .vpx files and I cant get it to import my .prx native file..

Has anybody been able to import a .prx in VIP????

I cant belive that they have blocked all native importing now???

Thanks,

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#2 Dan Shannon

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Posted 04 June 2003 - 12:57 PM

Bwahahahahahahahaha! I'm so glad I don't do much PRO-IV any more! Don't tell me PRO-IV are trying to shaft foreign development tools? :D

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Posted 04 June 2003 - 01:00 PM

Hmmm... That was my first thought :D

I realy hope they have not 'intended' to do this and its a mistake.

As this could be a serious problem for ProIV.

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#4 Ralph Gadsby

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Posted 04 June 2003 - 02:27 PM

If you go into the Project Administration window in VIP you will notice two radio groups at the bottom on the right. By default VIP is set up to block other editors. This is to protect your native source changes from being overwritten by VIP.

If you change the radio group to either Edit or Warn you will be able to import PRX files using $XFR.

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Posted 04 June 2003 - 02:30 PM

Hi,

Thanks Ralph, that worked fine.

I was a bit worried there... :D

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#6 Mike Schoen

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Posted 04 June 2003 - 02:34 PM

Is there a way to turn this off without using vip?
(assuming one had access to the bootstraps )

#7 Ralph Gadsby

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Posted 04 June 2003 - 03:09 PM

No, you have to use VIP.

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Posted 04 June 2003 - 03:10 PM

Ahhh.. yes thats not so easy when your in GreenScreen only.. is it :)

VIP (and $XFR) seem to use the file VIPD099.pro to store the state in.

This file has a record called 'OtherEditorsAllowed' and a flag that seems to be set as follows..

B - VIP only
E - No Warning
W - Warning.

If you have the bootstaps, then just change this flag.

Or you can ISIN the .out file that I have attached to this post, into the boots dir and it will change the flag for you to 'E', no warning.

Make sure that no one is in VIP, DS or $XFR while you ISIN the .out file. Just to be safe.

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While I have tried this and had no problems and I cannot see any problems you could get, you should take the various precautions like backups etc, before you attempt this. And I take no responsibility for anything nasty that might happen :D


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#9 Dan Shannon

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Posted 09 June 2003 - 01:00 PM

Is VIP a free part of a PRO-IV development license now?

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Posted 09 June 2003 - 01:12 PM

Dan, as far as I am aware VIP has always been free. VIP is installed by default from V5.0 onwards with development or evaluation license keys.

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Posted 10 June 2003 - 10:17 AM

Is VIP any good yet? I've seen a lot of mixed reviews on this site...

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Posted 10 June 2003 - 10:42 AM

I'm not a fan of it and lots of people I have talked to say that dont like it either.

Try it and see :rolleyes:

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Posted 11 June 2003 - 09:26 AM

This is old ground that has been trodden many times before on this site - but we're using VIP in anger now, and (after the inevitably horrible learning period) we've found it to be miles faster than anything else we have used.

There's some really neat features that surprise you - as well as some gliches that tend to annoy, but we've had a glimpse at the latest release and it has ironed out a lot of the annoyances (seems they do listen after all).

It's also got some slick new features which we can't wait to get our hands on.

It's only our opinion - but we like it a lot. Saying that though - I'm really keen to see your development environment Rob. As developers we just need the fastest and easiest tool to do our jobs. For us - it's VIP at the moment.

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Edited by Mike Wright, 11 June 2003 - 09:28 AM.

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Posted 11 June 2003 - 10:18 AM

5.5r302 seems to have disappeared from the PRO-IV downloads for Windows 98 NT 2K XP.

Are there some issues with it

Regards Mike

#15 Rob Donovan

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Posted 11 June 2003 - 11:57 AM

Hi Mike,

Yes there were problems with it and its been removed..

See this thread....

http://www.proivrc.c...t=ST&f=3&t=1618

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